Videography Help and Workshop Thread

[dan.claws]

well its 50 progressive frames per second and by the sounds of it if you're shooting at 60 frames it might be 60 interlaced frames(equivelent of 30 frames progressive) and it may be in NTSC format which usually operates at 30 fps.

The difference between NTSC and PAL is often confusing eg you can get the same camera as mine but in NTSC format and it shoots 60 fps, but when played back its the same speed as my 50 fps PAL footage.

But I'd be very interested to see the footage, especially of skating!

[mbfilm]

Yeh I talked to West and he also said that it could be because you guys have Panasonic and I have Sony, and so it may have different standards. But that progressive and interlaced formats sound right, except I know my cam is PAL. Ive got the skating footage on my site- www.millerbestmedia.com.

[doclach]

awesome interview thanks Dan - yer dude , ya goootta get overseas for that creative inspiration - it changes your life.. honest. You guys (as in you and miller) are so young but doing such insane filming sh#t... good footage of the sorta things you guys are doing is one BIG way boog and its riders are going to advance....

props to the film lads

[jonisnumber1]

miller, pay more attention in your english classes....

[west_matta]

i seem to get asked alot of questions about frame rates. like miller, alot of crew have these new sony cameras that allow them to film at 240 frames per second.

the thing is, its usually only for anywhere between 3-8 seconds and the quality at times can be very poor. apparently in the cameras manual it talks about how this is a function for annalysing golf swings etc.

Todd Barnes owns a camera that shoots in a higher frame with no quality loss yet is for something like only 6 seconds real time. (great for closeouts)

with the cameras dan i have, we can shoot in higher or lower frame rates without any quality loss and can film in the mode untill we run out of space on the P2 cards.

So it seems as though no matter what your budget for a camera is, you may be able to pick something up that allows you to play around with different frame rates.

Frame rates arent everything though, purchase a camera for its quality not the tricks it can do.

[jonnothong]

gday guys,

Iv just bought a HDR-SR11e with a Sony spk-HCC housing, pretty budget atm i know but im just starting out.

Iv also got sony vegas pro 8.0

Dumb question here err..some tips on actually taking footage? how to angle it, where to sit, whether to use a lid or just fins..any help appreciated!

[west_matta]

Dumb question here err..some tips on actually taking footage? how to angle it, where to sit, whether to use a lid or just fins..any help appreciated!

Should have seen my first camera!!! it was smaller then the 2x lens i put on my new camera haha.
If your filming from land alot invest in a half decent tripod at some point...
try not to film into the sun or from to far away. keep it simple while your starting out. get the basics down before u start trying to get to 'arty'. move around to find a spot you think looks good. most waves look best when your looking into the barrel. try not to set up really high on a cliff or something, it can make waves look small.

Filming from water can be done either on a board or swimming, its up to you. obviously if the wave is a fair way out (for example the box) you might want to sit of a board. try get as close as you can (sit on the shoulder of the wave) so you dont have to zoom in as much. the more zoomed in you are the easier it is to have bad shaky footage. if your housing has room for a wide angle and you get one, you would of course want to be swimming around in the barrel.

if you wanted to get better at bodyboarding you would practice alot and look at photos/footage of how you were surfing. The same goes with filming it, keep on doing it and look at your footage and see what you did well and what could have been done better.

[chad_waldron]

Want to see the future of cameras

They just released the new Red cam Scarlet http://www.red.com/epic_scarlet/

It pretty much changers everything!!!!

www.waldronbros.com

[LegendPix]

Got me!!

Thanx for heads up

[steve wall]

^fark i was just about to post that. RED are doing some totally insane things.

268mp 6x17 CM! sensor coming at 55,000$ incredibly cheap considering how ridiculous it's image quality will be and compared to current equipment prices

i imagine that the 2,500$ Scarlet 3K camera would be of far more interest to the average filmmaker.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread ... 835&page=3

[Mitch Oates]

i gues ill do that survay

[Mitch Oates]

Videographer Interview

1.Name Age Location
Mitch Oates/ 20/ near port mac/ cronulla i do first light media
2.Underwater/land
Water is funner, theres nothing worse then filming land and watching people get the best barels of there lives. but u miss a fare bit from water, so i usualy do land
3.Current Equipment
Sony Hdr fx7, the waterhousing they shot roam with, lucky for me it hasnt leaked yet.
4.Favourite set-up – both have and wish for
sony xdcam ex that camera is sick i wouldnt even need any other gear
5.Fave editing programme
words of advice dont get premiere pro cs4. i use cs3 but if i could afford a mac definately would be final cut its pretty sweet. cannot stand sony vegas, that thing just wastes space on your hard drive
6.When did u start shooting
a few years back, only just recently started getting into it like the last 12 months, winter of 07
7.Why did you start shooting
well its kinda fun and i like seeing the final product of what you can create, makes it seem worth while after all the effort you have put in. and i cant surf much because i have a gay back problem
8.Any hectic moments?
nah not yet, im sure there will be some to come though
9.Fave break to shoot
definately not a beach, some reefy where i can float in the channel and catch all the action
10.Fave riders to shoot
any one pro, or good at surfing,
11.Fave boog movie
roam definately roam, havent seen roam 2 though

12.Fave trick to shoot
some kind of hectic barrel with some big hangtime out
13.Fave footage ever - yours
Ben player at aus pipe, roll, spin into pit then backy out. on a close out woo

14.Fave footage ever – other filmer
michael novy, jake stone, chris james sections on roam
15.Who inspires you film wise
no one? im keeen enough as it to film ide explode if some one inspired me
16.What delineates your video as individual to you
what does that even mean?
17.Wishlist breaks to film
1. Bwalls
2. Shark Island
3. Mystics
4. Nuggan.

LOL CLEARLY IM JOKING

18.Wishlist riders to film
any one sick at surfing,
preferably some amazing guy that know one has seen before
or a big wig

19.Places that inspire you artistically
My local beach, had alot of time up there getting inspired
20.What music do you play when you are editing
well i edit to songs i like, end by the end of it i usualy hate the song because i had to listen to it so much then edit the same footage to something else, and that happens about 4 times untill i choose the best edit
21.Sources of Artistic inspiration?
NONE? just doin my own thing. wouldnt that be weird to get off on other peoples weirdness
22.Fave soundtrack style
What ever goes with the footage there editing
23.Fave up and comer rider and why
i dunno really, theres a whole heap of young guys these days
24.Tips to riders you are going to film?

Can we take turns in filming so i can surf?

[pjx]

Hey fellus

i got a Canon Xh A1and i shoot water with it whilst she is safely sitting inside her pthp housing.

Just having a few zoom issues when i shoot water. when i go to zoom in on the subject he/she becomes blurry and the sky/background will be in focus. Ive been shooting man focus at infinite and cant seem to get the results i want. i dont shoot fisheye so i am pretty much a channell filmer.

Could any of these be the problem

I use Tv mode (shutter priority) and set it to 1000/2000 or 4000 which usually leaves my aperature pretty low. (could running a shutter of about 1/800 give me the depth to zoom in a bit??)

I turn my nd filters off

I set focus to infinte.

If i could get a heads up on this itd be really appreciated.

pjx

[lachlan palmos]

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[southern_rewards]

20.What music do you play when you are editing?

If you editing without listening to the track that the footage is going to, then your in trouble!